Hello bro, since 21 months, u havent have any updates, any CO contact?? Is it ??
what’s ur occupation and what’s the status in ur immi account?
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Visa Grant Delay 189
But it must have some obligation to decide the applications in a timely manner, they can’t kept the applications hung for years. It is unfortunate that they don’t feel this obligation. If they wanted to cut migration numbers, these invites should not have been sent in the 1st place, but here we are talking of invites sent more than 1 or in some case close to 2 years back. It will now only be right on their part to finalize these applications, basically grant unless somebody has wrongly claimed any point.
Yes bro. 21 months on Developer programmer 189. Applied onshore with 75 points (which was enough to get invited within a week). With superior English score, local experience and all Australian academics. Left the country before Pandemic, got locked out.
It is difficult to digest what you have conveyed in your post. However, that’s the truth. Like it or not, we will have to take that with a pinch of salt. I can’t agree more!
I guess this forum is a good way for many of us to share our views on the issue and get some sort of sympathy from others going through this long wait processing period, as well as sharing experiences throughout the process and updated information.
It’s certainly realistic to accept the difficult economic issues the country is facing right now and its long lasting effect, the problem though It’s people who have been waiting for longer than a year should have had an outcome earlier given they have been jumped applicants on the queue with no reasonable reasons and granting some other within days or few months.
It’s understandable that some cases may have taken longer to be assessed if they request further medical examinations or other additional actions, however, what doesn’t make sense is that you have applicants from over a year that haven’t been contacted at least once, meaning case hasn’t even been picked up, at this stage, after over a year, it is not known if the case is complex and should take longer to be assessed.
Many of these applicants are former students, hence, contributors of this economy for years. From their students fee universities paid wages of many staff, which indirectly hit government accounts through taxes, so It’s an economy chain. This is only one factor for them to have more regard with these applicants.
On the other hand, I will encourage you all to understand the dynamic of the economy of this country to then have a better picture of the situation and after knowing what part immigrants play in this economy game you’ll see why applicants should be better considered throughout this process.
After you have made that contribution to the economy living in the country where you pay taxes, rent rooms or houses that pay mortgages of many locals who have an investment property that contributes with the construction sector as well, and increase landlords wealth for them to be better off when they retire.
Then once you become a permanent resident you keep feeding this economy that heavily relies on population growth. These are some of the factors for the Government shape the inmigration system the way they do. So, these old applicants matters.
The universities crisis tell you how important are these students for the economy and many applicants waiting for over a year are former students. Government plays with the skill immigration program to attract people to come to study.
They have recently been very outspoken about it when they changed the conditions to apply for graduate visa to include those studying remotely, as they stated they want to remain competitive and an attractive destination for international students.
There are valid reasons for people to feel they deserve to have their applications assessed in a timely manner and also get their grants. It’s understandable the border is currently closed and there is no firm date when it will be open, but it’s fair to ask them to keep processing visas even for overseas applicants as they can come up with ways to be consistent with their border closure policies, things like grant the visa with a condition to postpone the date of entry and change the timeframe where they need to first entry to the country to activate the visa. This will actually reduce their work load, otherwise they will pile applications that may last forever.
I guess a smart decision for a newly PR located overseas is to wait until border conditions improve as currently flight tickets are ridiculously expensive, prioritising first class given current arrivals caps, plus quarantine requirement can cost up to $4k, so It’s not very wise to make the move to come having all these expenses and no job. This is just common sense, unless they have enough money to do it. So, I don’t think there is any issue to grant a visa delaying the date of entry, but provide an outcome, especially for applicants waiting for over a year, because certainly many people are waiting for it to plan their life ahead and this uncertainty trigger issues like anxiety, applicants are human beings no mere numbers.
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Well said. Like the partner visa application issue can we all make petition for 189/190 visa. So we will start to get some attention. The partner visa they started getting grants. So if we too can push there are chances. Like you said mental stress it too much now. We need some answer otherwise waiting for so long and getting a PR is not so worth.
Contrary to your mistaken belief, the government is not giving visas to New Zealanders. In fact the processing times for that visa stream have blown out to two years before you are even allowed to complain about it.
NZ people can live in Australia with no major issues. I heard recently many have had character problems and they have been tougher when it comes to assess this.
I think we should get someone who advocates for us. I have seen a MP from the greens voicing for rejected visas to enter the country on compassionate grounds for separated families and the chief who is managing this process said the assessment criteria will be reviewed. So, advocacy works.
So how we can do something with this. Seriously somebody should advocate us. If you known the name we can send him an email.
I have repeatedly suggested to do it through MP, and this depends on your address in Australia.
I would rather try to make a collective effort requesting activate visa processing for all old applicants affected by the long wait to send a stronger message and get better results.
Check this news and the name of the senator Nick Mckim. They are reachable through their team, you only need to look up for contact information on internet.
Yes collective request makes sense. So to whom and how we gone send our request. It’s better than just wait and wait.
Well …we should start by asking people in this forum who want to be part of this initiative…
I would strongly encourage the ones who have over a year, some of them nearly two years, waiting for a first CO contact to join…
We also need to reach out this senator and ask what they need from us to make a collective request on this issue.
@kyanar requested a FOI for any document relating to the process by which they select applications from the unassigned pool for assessment by a case officer, including policies, departmental directions and ministerial directions. This could also help.
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We probably need a platform for us to communicate. How do we make a start.?
I have been hoping somehow they get this sense not to pile up applications, finalize them and do something like you suggested - keep an entry date which is few months beyond and in accordance with their estimated border open date, or may be just grant with the condition that entry date will be communicated later. I don’t know but I personally feel they might have already finalized the applications internally where they had all the needed documents, but decisions may have been kept on hold due to border closure which means these decisions won’t get communicated to applicants at least till start of 2021.
I wish you’re right, but I don’t think so because they may need to request to do medicals and police check again.
Many people have them already expired.
The claim was that New Zealanders are getting visas - this is not true. A New Zealander who is not already ordinarily resident in Australia cannot come to Australia, and one who is outside Australia has to apply through the same channels as you do - which are not being progressed. SamGeek is objectively wrong on that.
Well, I met kiwis here and they have been working with full working rights without going through visa 189 processing.
However, It’s different story when they want to get citizenship, they may take similar path as we do.
Actually, treasury outlook outlines they are relaxing requirements regarding salary cap, and I remember to read something related to to the time they have been living in Australia.
At this point we are not directly affected anyway, so we shouldn’t worry too much about it.
This is a good platform.
We could start by trying to reach this senator.
I think the petition you provided can be sent to him.
Sigh. Again, SamGeek was claiming that the government is still giving visas to New Zealanders, which they absolutely are not. No NZer outside Australia who does not currently live here can come here, which is absolute fact.
As to the relaxing salary requirements, not true. The current rules for the 189 NZ Stream (which is not being processed, it’s as stuck as the Visitor stream…) are five years residence, with four of them over the skilled migration income threshold (which is about $54000). The new rules are five years residence, with three of those years over that amount. No points testing is applied, but the cost of the visa is still a whopping $4200 for what seemingly is just a rubber stamp.